Saying Goodbye to ‘My Next Favorite Game’

I remember the excitement from April of 2004 as if it were yesterday. A friend of mine from a Star Wars gaming forum had mentioned an upcoming RPG called ‘Dungeon Lords’. The details were pretty sketchy at the time, but the game looked very promising. It reminded me at once of Gothic II and Baldur’s Gate and Jedi Knight II – a few of my all-time favorite games. I also knew that D. W. Bradley – who I didn’t know, but knew of from the famed Wizardry games (that I’d never played!) – was heading it up … so it really seemed like a sure thing.

An aside on what it means to be 'my next favorite game'. One of my key personal attributes is loyalty. Not blind, dumb loyalty, but the sort that is hard earned and long-kept. The same is true with gaming. The games I fall in love with and remain loyal to are ones that I continue to play and speak about often. Games like the original Castle Wolfenstein, the entire Dark Forces / Jedi Knight series, anything by Bioware or Black Isle, and more recently Gothic I / II. These are games that I have played not two or three times, as I have with 'games I like' such as Half-Life I/II, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, and so on. These are games that I replay again and again - I have fully played Jedi Knight II more than thirty times at this point, and have recently embarked on at least my tenth full trip through Knights of the Old Republic. When I looked at Dungeon Lords, I thought I saw my next gaming love, my next gaming obsession, the next game I'd be saying 'on my fifth time through I did ...' about.

I quickly joined the game forums at Typhoon Games in April, then DreamCatcher as soon as they opened up in July. There was a great bunch of people there – especially at Typhoon, where there was already a small community going. Joining in there was a very positive experience, as there were many other 30-something game fans looking forward to DL. We shared gaming pasts and current experiences, as well as our thoughts on what we had heard about Dungeon Lords. Every time a new preview of screenshot was released, we would pick it apart and share our thoughts. The backstory we heard about seemed pretty standard stuff, but also a solid basis for establishing conflict and possibilities – and it gave us plenty to talk about.

The first sign of trouble came last fall. At that time the release date was supposed to be in November, a demo was to be released on September 30th, and a call for beta testers went out. Very quickly the demo was pushed back and then cancelled. Then the beta date came and went with seemingly no one chosen. And then finally the release date was pushed back to Q1 2005. There was a lot of activity on the forums about all of this – we gained many new members, some positive, some simply looking to cause trouble. But that is the nature of any user forum, isn’t it? What seemed clear was that communications were not being handled very well.

We honestly did not know what state the game was in, but everything in previews still looked promising, so we hung on through the winter. Many of us were distracted with games like Half-Life 2, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and later Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II, so we really didn’t mind the delays too much. But as Q1 2005 wore on, and we entered the middle of February, we began to wonder what was happening. Then a whole series of new press build previews came along, touting the combat and challenges. They all talked almost exclusively about the combat, and a few puzzles, but not too much else. The community was again abuzz over the possibilities, and we were imagining what the game might be like.

That is the funny thing about looking forwards to a game. You are only given a certain amount of information, and left to shape the rest in your imagination. The longer you are waiting, and the larger the community, the more the game seems to take on a life of its’ own. Some communities are well guided by developers and publishers – I specifically recall all of the helpful input the Jedi Knight II fanbase got from Raven Software in the year leading to the release of that game. However, neither Heuristic Park nor DreamCatcher were very good communicators – except for this guy named ‘CHUK’ who would show up periodically on the Typhoon forums and throw us a few tidbits. He was a great guy, and the way that he reminded me of ChangKhan from Raven just got me more excited for the game. But there were more signs that the game would require a miracle to be ready for release. In one preview – on LANAddict, if I recall – the reviewer mentioned that there was so much missing and not right in the game that they hoped that it could make the timeline. I took the initiative to jump on this and write to the developers and publishers, and tell them that they should really heed those words. I posed the following question: Would you rather be remembered as the guys who released a really good game some months late, or the ones who pushed the unfinished and buggy mess out the door on time.

I could not have imagined how relevant that question was at the time.

The game got delayed for a couple of months, and then for a few more weeks, during which time the DreamCatcher forums became much more lively, and the main place CHUK would provide information … and therefore the place where I hung out. Also in that time period the demo was released … which I can see now was the beginning of the end.

The Dungeon Lords demo was a disaster – it took forever to install, had loads of glitches, a single screen to tell you what to do, and mammoth respawning right from the start. None of the options worked … it could be fun, but was generally just a mess. The fact that there was a general agreement that it was pretty much a repack of the press build from November seemed to calm us a bit , leaving us only feeling disappointed that we didn’t get a representative look at the game.

The problem was, of course, that we really did get a good look. When the game was released the first week in May, many of us ran right out and grabbed it. I know I did, even though I had a review copy coming the following week – I had basically invested myself in the game, and made my decision to support it with a purchase. I started playing right away, and over the next couple of weeks put more than 100 hours into the game, playing through twice, once as a Mage and once as a Paladin.

I had fun, but I have barely touched the game since, and don’t think I really ever will. Why? Because it is very substantially unfinished. Enough so where I didn’t feel that the two runs I had were much different – only the combat changed things, and there is only so far that can take you. As a role-playing game, it was lacking too much. But what of the patches – can’t they help? Possibly, but let’s look at the track record. The demo was released in March, and was much like the build from January, which it turns out was much like the November build. The release build in early May had some changes, but much of it was the same. Therefore we can assume that making changes is very slow. That is confirmed by looking at the patches – each one has fixed a few things, but pretty small stuff given we are now about three months since release.

Heuristic Park would need to revamp the journal, add character customization, add many, many NPC’s and environmental items, deal with the spawning issues, give us quests and rewards … which is entirely too much to ask or expect. Dungeon Lords is what it is, which is a mediocre, unfinished RPG that reeks of ‘what could have been’. I warn people off of it all the time and now look back on it with bittersweet feelings of the fun I had despite the way the game ended up. I made some new friends, and watched one of them – Chuk, who was the only one to stick his neck out and talk to the fans – get his heart broken watching so much of his work getting trashed because of the final quality of the game. It was a sad thing hearing how he had been missing out on time with his wife and their new baby in order to build assets that will likely never be used in the game.

Dungeon Lords will not be remembered as a game – if it is remembered at all, it will be as a beacon of what an unfinished game or a messy release looks like. I doubt D. W. Bradley will ever get another release funded. I imagine that Heuristic Park will fold sooner than later, and I hope Chuk lands on his feet as he is surely a very talented person. As for myself, I hope I maintain contact with a few of the friends I made, but I have moved on to other games.

That is the way of the gamer.

Yet a few more of my reviews are up.

Boiling Point: The Road To Hell for the PC. This is a very interesting and engaging game that is also highly flawed. Too bad, really ...

Goldeneye: Rogue Agent for the Nintendo DS... the best handheld FPS controls EVER ... too bad they're attached to such a mediocre game.

Pariah for the PC. Another mediocre game, not terrible, just mediocre - oh, and really short.

Interesting how I noticed - I was scanning GameTab, and went to Voodoo Extreme, and saw the Pariah review - seems everyone picked it up quickly.

I'm playing Dead to Rights Reckoning, which isn't bad, but not good either.

I wanted to share a wonderful picture I got on Independance Day at Disney World of the fireworks from in front of Cinderella's Castle. While nothing can capture the impact of the spectacular 360 degree show (or of the half million other fools crowded in with us!), this is a nice shot.

Game rentals - I did my first one yesterday. As someone who is normally on the cutting edge, I'm way behind on this ... I rented a Scobby Doo GameCube game for the kids a year or so ago when my wife was going away for the weekend, but this is different.

Normally I buy everything I'm looking forward to 'new', meaning I generally pay full price. In late 2003, as I got into RPG's, in order to 'catch up', I began spending more time on eBay, picking up some good deals along the way. I got some pretty good deals along the way.

But this year, with the Nintendo DS and Sony PSP coming along, and a number of small-shop RPG's, I've found myself paying full price for games. And given the quality of many of these games ... it was just too much. I wanted to try renting ever since Blockbuster announced PSP rentals, but the closest shop to me didn't carry them (or participate in the 'no late fees' program!). But I just found that there is another store a few miles away, and they had Dead to Rights Reckoning. Perfect - I've heard that it is pretty mediocre, and I already regret paying $40 for Coded Arms.

GamerDad has posted a few more of my reviews:

Postal 2: Apocalypse Weekend for the PC. This is my most scathing and lowest score review yet - 1 star out of 5. I was initiatially wavering between 1 and 2 stars, but after some discussions, it was clear that my words back only one outcome.

Restricted Area for the PC ... another disappointment in this year that seems full of them.

Coded Arms for the PSP, was an unfortunately pretty but lousy FPS. The controls were terrible, the levels cramped and bland, and the story played out in the first few seconds. I gave it 2.5 stars.

I still have a bunch of reviews in the queue ... including Star Wars Episode III for the DS, Fire Emblem Sacred Stones for the GBA, Project: Snowblind for the PC and GoldenEye Rogue Agent for the DS. I'm writing up stuff for Riviera on the GBA, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory on the DS, and Boiling Point for the PC. Whew ... lot of stuff. I know I also have the action-RPG Metalheart: Replicant Rampage coming to me, but I'm starting to want more time to play games I really love or have been looking to play - so I started Beyond Divinity today, and am also replaying Baldur's Gate II.

OK, so I'm back from Disney ... and then had some vacation at my wife's parent's house (some vacation, some helping out) ... and need to add some more stuff here ... next couple of days I'll add stuff - before having another week off (this time for Cub Scout Camp).

Getting ready to leave on vacation - 4th of July at Disney World! We must be crazy! It will be hot and crowded ... but we're all so very much looking forward to it. See you next week!

Yet another generic shooter ... this time it is called Pariah. It is a beautiful game, tightly put together, and everything works very well. Yet is reminds me of Rune in that you seem to be on a journey the entire game, then *bam* end boss. The story is pretty weak even though the game feely story-driven. The characters never give you much reason to feel empathy/sympathy/antipathy, and the enemy AI is inconsistent. I have noted price drops on this one already ...

Given my disappointment at Postal 2: Apolcalypse Weekend, and since I needed to have Postal 2 installed to install the expansion, I played through Postal 2 again. I hadn't touched it in quite a while - well, two years to be more precise.

Postal 2 is still as I remember it - a pretty generic shooter, with some cool things wrapped around it. It is free and open, there is humor and interesting characters and good interactions, and totally rediculous situations. It is just plain stupid fun.

Playing it only cemented how bad I thought the expansion was.

I spent another 'gaming lunch' ... and finished two games. (ok, it ended up ~1.5 hours, but I'm good for it ;) )

Restricted Area: I predict that this game will win an award - worst voice acting for whoever did Victoria ... she should just shut up and kill stuff. A cool looking and sounding game that turned quickly into a real yawner.

Postal 2 Apocalypse Weekend: The first game wasn't highly reviewed, but many found it a fun 'guilty pleasure'. I fall into that pack - worth playing once, try out the 'napalm urination', never played again. The expansion took ~4-6 hours, was completely inane and not fun.

Mike

GamerDad has put my Fate review on the main page today. It is really a fun game, but I have personally run into the 'unlock limit' issue already - I installed on my main gaming laptop (1), and then tried but failed on my work machine due to firewall (2), then installed the low-res version on my little Dell Latitude D400 just to check (3). I went to install on the Dell Inspiron 8500 at home for the kids to keep playing, but got the 'invalid key' error. Oh well ... email to tech support.

I'm playing Postal 2: Apocalypse Weekend right now. Two words - lame and tame. The first one at least put some choices in your hands in the midst of being an idiotic and uninspired shooter that tried to distinguish itself by being completely offensive to everyone. The expansion shows no sense of style or focus, and the graphics still look the same. It reminds me of being a kid and seeing things that were controversial back in the early 60's and having a chuckle ...

My review for Dungeon Lords is up at GamerDad. (Thanks Dhruin!) I scored it as a 3/5 (60%) and it was a very difficult review to write because:
- I had very high hopes for the game as my next Gothic II
- I got to know some of the people involved and they are all wonderful
- I actually had a blast playing it for >100 hours!

But in the end, there were so many glaring problems and deficiencies that the amount of fun I had actually went to 'tilt' the score from 50% to 60%.

I'm playing Restricted Area, and have gotten my 'Victoria' pretty powerful. It is a decent game, but while I'm going around accomplishing goals, I really can't say I'm having any fun.

As opposed to Fire Emblem Sacred Stones, which is just a joy. I am anguishing over turns early in battles, then relishing in my strategy as I see the tide of battle turn in my favor.

I've also been on an eBay buying spree ... picked up DarkStone, Revenant, Wizardry 8, Postal 2 (I traded Unreal II with a friend to play it originally, then we traded back) - so I can grab the expansion, and Boiling Point. Boiling Point is supposed to be a bit of a mess, but I got it for cheap ...

Another day, and some more new games.

Restricted Area is a post-apocolyptic isometric action-RPG, which looks pretty nice, but has been giving me fits on the very first mission! I have started four games - two as Mr. Johnson and two as Victoria - and had to dump all of them. My Victoria missions failed because I died trying to conserve medkits. One Johnson ended the same way, the other I got stuck in a wall (i.e. BUG!) The CD is taking a rest right now ...

Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones is a RTS/RPG for the GBA. It is very well done, I'm playing on 'easy' so I get the full tutorial, and it is going pretty well. I have lost one of my people, whose name I can't forget, it was a minor fighter, and it is interesting how death is *final* in this game.

Dungeon Lords continues to get pummelled in reviews ... to the point where people can get away with barely playing any of the game, having a tough time and blaming the game ...

Last week I played a nice little RPG called 'Nox', from 2000. It was a decent game, with reasonable graphics and questing. It was a fun play, about 30 hours in total, with good increase in difficulty as the game goes on. The music and spell effects were well done - it is a game that keeps you playing.

I am still torn over the review I submitted for Dungeon Lords. I had some conflicting ideas on scoring the game, as I have very conflicted feelings about the game itself. Ultimately I tried to be as objective as possible in describing the good and bad without it turning into a large volume.

I have been unable to get to see Episode III again ... just too busy. I'd love to get to see it again in the theaters ... may have to take time off of work to do it ;)

So I finished some games ...

Star Wars Episode III for the DS - I finished this weekend, with both Anakin's and Obi-Wan's 'paths', and did some 'skirmishes' - which are basically multiplayer flight matches against bots. A very fun game, best Star Wars handheld game I've played.

Dungeon Lords - how do I even begin ... it is really good, yet very problematic. For instance, there is once trigger I had to reload about 10 times to have work. Also, when starting the 'end-game', there were four quests in my log, one of which was from the very beginning of the game, and all of which I had finished long before. But the end areas were fun and challenging, as were pretty much all of the dungeon areas. My thoughts are basically - cool game, good combat, decent story, missing loads of stuff ... just not done. Oh, and I have never really gotten multiplayer to work ...

... now I have to write up my reviews for both ...

We pulled the kids out of school yesterday to see Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. I see it as clearly the best of the prequels ... but more than that, I see it on par with 'Star Wars' and 'Empire' .... with two of the great gems of my youth.

My older son says it is his favorite, while my younger son says it was his least favorite ... because Anakin turned to the dark side.

For me, while nothing will ever replace the feeling of that opening crawl or space battle, or of Vader's reveal, this is right up there ...

My wife Lisa went on the Avon Walk for Breast Cancer this weekend ... she and a friend walked about 40 miles over two days. About 1800 people total participated and they raised millions of dollars! The boys and I didn't get there until Sunday morning (Friday night was 'walker only', and Saturday we were loaded up with Soccer, Baseball, etc...) but it was something - really emotional experience. Everyone was touched in some way by cancer, and there was total camaraderie between walkers - these people who didn't know each other were hugging and laughing and crying together. We were clapping and cheering for everyone while we waited for Lisa to arrive. Fortunately the weather stayed pretty decent for the weekend.

I played a ton of Dungeon Lords this weekend as well. I really like so much of it, that it is a shame about what isn't done or is incomplete. I can barely stand visiting the Dreamcatcher forums because of some of the harsh rhetoric, much of which is purely reactionary, but a lot is justified.

In particular, my hate of the Journal has only intensified over the weekend. I have dealt without the map, and am getting familiar with the land. But when I forget about who I need to talk to and where ... that is when any decent RPG should have a journal with notes to help me out. But instead I get the line 'Go to Skuldoon and help the Mage' - I know that .... he told me to do something, now what was it ?!?

I'm basically done with the Episode III game for the DS, and it was pretty good. Hard at times, repetitive at others, and I have no idea why the touch screen for 'special moves' was disabled during 'boss battles' ... but in general a lot of fun.

I am having a Love / Hate relationship with Dungeon Lords. I am many hours into it, and it *is* quite engrossing ...

First off, I like that this game has attempted to have the large open world as found in games like Gothic, rather than the closed maze feel of something like KotOR. It is a beautiful world, very dangerous. No random NPC's who don't belong on the road like in Morrowind, but that is a mixed blessing - while the hostile travel makes sense, there is little 'color' in the towns so far.

My two main gripes - map and quest log - seem trivial, but when playing in a large world with various quests and locations, they need to be robust. I was looking for Moonstones, and up in the middle of the Lost Lake, I came upon the grotto where they were located, but it was a matter of swimming around and hunting for familiar things between the compass and the paper map. Just not good enough.

The Journal is another problem - you get these quests, some of which end up as page after page of expository dialogue ... but in the Journal you get the equivalent of 'bring the sword to Bob'.

I have hit level 10, tons of experience, but the Mage portion of my character still feels weak - my 'BattleMage' (even though I chose sorcerer) is mainly a fighter with magic weapons.

Very busy weekend - had Theresa up, acting as Danny's Godparent(s), Danny's First Communion on Saturday, and Mother's Day. Really good weekend (except for lousy weather!), but little gaming ...

Got my 'belated' birthday gift of Republic Commando, barely started ... still not a priority.

Picked up Dungeon Lords, but had very little time to play ... unfortunately it shows considerable evidence of being rushed out unpolished, and also unfortunately they didn't take what looks like the 'common route to rush-outs', which is to make the beginning look good and patch the later parts (e.g. KotOR 2 & VtM: Bloodlines)

The Episode III game for the DS is a gem, very tough for me, but worth going through ... at least so far.

Just an update ... Dungeon Lords arrives at EBGames ... I'll grab my copy later this afternoon (something called work gets in the way ...)

As for Wizards & Warriors ... I managed to get four good characters so far - 3 warriors and a mage, took them out of town to save, will work on the priest and rogue later ... what a hassle ...